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	<title>Comments on: Building a New Rec Center? It&#8217;s in Your Hands Delaware</title>
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	<description>Toby Boyce &#124; Keller Williams Consultants &#124; (740) 990-9748 &#124; toby@tobysellshomes.com</description>
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		<title>By: Ian Homich</title>
		<link>http://www.delawareohrealestate.com/2008/07/13/building-a-new-rec-center-its-in-your-hands-delaware/comment-page-1/#comment-17632</link>
		<dc:creator>Ian Homich</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Aug 2008 04:38:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good response above.

Well, here we are on Aug. 5th, voting day!...

There remain multiple points that could be discussed on this topic; I believe a discourse on them could be very interesting and worthwhile.
But that didn&#039;t/won&#039;t happen.

However, it IS voting day.  Generally, it seems that people don&#039;t really think beyond maybe a second-grade level on most issues...rec center, education, seniors, MRDD, presidents...they just vote.  (yes, there is certainly a little bit of a joke in there, but maybe not that funny of one)

When it comes to thinking and planning, I can be a bit of an idealist...why not, when considering ideas, be an idealist?  When it comes to action, like voting, my pragmatism trumps that idealism in most cases.  

Rec Center =  good.  Therefore, I&#039;m going to vote for it.   :)      (haha...see 2 paragraphs above)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good response above.</p>
<p>Well, here we are on Aug. 5th, voting day!&#8230;</p>
<p>There remain multiple points that could be discussed on this topic; I believe a discourse on them could be very interesting and worthwhile.<br />
But that didn&#8217;t/won&#8217;t happen.</p>
<p>However, it IS voting day.  Generally, it seems that people don&#8217;t really think beyond maybe a second-grade level on most issues&#8230;rec center, education, seniors, MRDD, presidents&#8230;they just vote.  (yes, there is certainly a little bit of a joke in there, but maybe not that funny of one)</p>
<p>When it comes to thinking and planning, I can be a bit of an idealist&#8230;why not, when considering ideas, be an idealist?  When it comes to action, like voting, my pragmatism trumps that idealism in most cases.  </p>
<p>Rec Center =  good.  Therefore, I&#8217;m going to vote for it.   <img src='http://www.delawareohrealestate.com/wordpress/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />       (haha&#8230;see 2 paragraphs above)</p>
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		<title>By: Christine Duffy</title>
		<link>http://www.delawareohrealestate.com/2008/07/13/building-a-new-rec-center-its-in-your-hands-delaware/comment-page-1/#comment-17606</link>
		<dc:creator>Christine Duffy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jul 2008 15:24:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Those other communities chose to approve a higher tax amount so that the tax covers some of the operating costs and then the residents who use it pay a lower fee than in our model of operation. So their non-users pay for the construction AND part of the operating cost. We also do not have affluence to generate those funds without a much higher tax.

We considered doing all that and decided that passing a construction levy would be hard enough and that users should bear the operating cost.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Those other communities chose to approve a higher tax amount so that the tax covers some of the operating costs and then the residents who use it pay a lower fee than in our model of operation. So their non-users pay for the construction AND part of the operating cost. We also do not have affluence to generate those funds without a much higher tax.</p>
<p>We considered doing all that and decided that passing a construction levy would be hard enough and that users should bear the operating cost.</p>
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		<title>By: Ian Homich</title>
		<link>http://www.delawareohrealestate.com/2008/07/13/building-a-new-rec-center-its-in-your-hands-delaware/comment-page-1/#comment-17599</link>
		<dc:creator>Ian Homich</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jul 2008 17:59:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Having a recreation center is a very good idea.

HOWEVER, I am NOT convinced that this particular conception of building one is such a good idea.  

Firstly, look at YMCAs around central Ohio, then look at independent community centers (Westerville, Dublin) (you can easily find info on all of this online; or stop in one of them).  To me, it seems that the independent city rec centers are much nicer than the Ys.  

Next, look at the cost.  The independent cities&#039; rec centers were/are also funded by tax levies.  That is reasonable.  They also pay a membership fee.  The interesting thing is:  Look at what that fee is!  

If the Delaware rec center levy is passed and it is built as planned, I could go to Westerville&#039;s beautiful center and pay less there as a non-resident than I would to go to the Delaware one as a resident!  That is ridiculous. 

Therefore, to me, this simply doesn&#039;t add up.  

I want more amenities and features, and an overall nicer facility, for less.  That can and has been done--look at our neighbors.  Of course, for a comparison on the opposite side, look at Powell/Liberty Twp rec center.  Do they really get what they&#039;re paying for?  

Additionally, with a city owned and operated center, all fees paid to the center go to the center operating costs/city.  With a Y, they go to the Y for its operating costs or whatever else.  Why not circle our money back to ourselves, keeping it in the city, with a city-owned and operated facility?  

You decide, Delaware.  The Westerville/Dublin-style, or the Powell/Y style?  

A rec center is a great idea!  But that doesn&#039;t mean we just have to take whatever plan gets thrown at us.  I say, we send them back to the drawing board...let them come up with a couple other ideas for comparison.  

We should get the best center that we can, and at the best price possible for it.  I don&#039;t believe this current proposal fits either of those, and that is why I do not support it.  

Whether or not you choose to support it, at least think about this; if you want a say in it, vote.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Having a recreation center is a very good idea.</p>
<p>HOWEVER, I am NOT convinced that this particular conception of building one is such a good idea.  </p>
<p>Firstly, look at YMCAs around central Ohio, then look at independent community centers (Westerville, Dublin) (you can easily find info on all of this online; or stop in one of them).  To me, it seems that the independent city rec centers are much nicer than the Ys.  </p>
<p>Next, look at the cost.  The independent cities&#8217; rec centers were/are also funded by tax levies.  That is reasonable.  They also pay a membership fee.  The interesting thing is:  Look at what that fee is!  </p>
<p>If the Delaware rec center levy is passed and it is built as planned, I could go to Westerville&#8217;s beautiful center and pay less there as a non-resident than I would to go to the Delaware one as a resident!  That is ridiculous. </p>
<p>Therefore, to me, this simply doesn&#8217;t add up.  </p>
<p>I want more amenities and features, and an overall nicer facility, for less.  That can and has been done&#8211;look at our neighbors.  Of course, for a comparison on the opposite side, look at Powell/Liberty Twp rec center.  Do they really get what they&#8217;re paying for?  </p>
<p>Additionally, with a city owned and operated center, all fees paid to the center go to the center operating costs/city.  With a Y, they go to the Y for its operating costs or whatever else.  Why not circle our money back to ourselves, keeping it in the city, with a city-owned and operated facility?  </p>
<p>You decide, Delaware.  The Westerville/Dublin-style, or the Powell/Y style?  </p>
<p>A rec center is a great idea!  But that doesn&#8217;t mean we just have to take whatever plan gets thrown at us.  I say, we send them back to the drawing board&#8230;let them come up with a couple other ideas for comparison.  </p>
<p>We should get the best center that we can, and at the best price possible for it.  I don&#8217;t believe this current proposal fits either of those, and that is why I do not support it.  </p>
<p>Whether or not you choose to support it, at least think about this; if you want a say in it, vote.</p>
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		<title>By: Toby Boyce</title>
		<link>http://www.delawareohrealestate.com/2008/07/13/building-a-new-rec-center-its-in-your-hands-delaware/comment-page-1/#comment-17575</link>
		<dc:creator>Toby Boyce</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jul 2008 14:25:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Christine,
It is a good cause, we&#039;ll see how the city reacts on August 5.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Christine,<br />
It is a good cause, we&#8217;ll see how the city reacts on August 5.</p>
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		<title>By: Christine Duffy</title>
		<link>http://www.delawareohrealestate.com/2008/07/13/building-a-new-rec-center-its-in-your-hands-delaware/comment-page-1/#comment-17550</link>
		<dc:creator>Christine Duffy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jul 2008 02:43:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I totally support this issue. I would rather have my money going to the Delaware YMCA than another city&#039;s YMCA or a gym outside Delaware. A membership to the YMCA (broken down into monthly payments) is less than the average monthly cable bill!
Plus this issue will raise money that is used to improve existing facilites in Delaware (light lighting the fields at Mingo).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I totally support this issue. I would rather have my money going to the Delaware YMCA than another city&#8217;s YMCA or a gym outside Delaware. A membership to the YMCA (broken down into monthly payments) is less than the average monthly cable bill!<br />
Plus this issue will raise money that is used to improve existing facilites in Delaware (light lighting the fields at Mingo).</p>
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